For Christian people helpers
Death of a Pastor's Wife Conversation
Watch the replay of Leslie Vernick and Chris Moles talking through what this story brings up, and how to respond when someone brings it to you.
Recorded live on Friday, October 16, 2026, with pastors, counselors, coaches and ministry leaders from around the world.
Watch the replay
In this conversation, Leslie and Chris talk about:
- Why so many churches missed what was happening, and how a pastor can groom a whole congregation
- How grace, forgiveness and submission get twisted into "no consequences"
- What to notice in your office: who makes the decisions, and what happens when she says no
- Why you should see a couple separately when you suspect abuse
- What real accountability and real repentance look like over time
Keep learning together
Join Leslie and Chris in Equip
Equip is the membership community Leslie and Chris started for Christian people helpers: counselors, pastors, coaches and lay leaders who want to recognize abuse and respond to it in a way that is biblically sound and trauma informed. You don't have to be licensed.
- A live call with Leslie and Chris every month for case consultation, prayer and support
- A library of video training you can watch any time
- Colleagues who understand this work, so you don't have to carry hard cases alone
- Help building the knowledge, skill and confidence to speak up, and support if God is calling you to write, speak or lead
Equip meets on Zoom on the third Monday of every month at 1:00 PM Eastern.