My Husband Says It’s My Disrespect That Causes Him To Hit Me
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This Week’s Question: My husband says that he is put into a kind of uncontrollable rage when I disrespect him because it is his God-given right as the husband to be respected. Last night I told my husband, who has physically struck me in the past, that I felt unsafe in our marriage and that I thought it was necessary that we lay some ground rules and boundaries specifically to be enforced during our times of arguing and fighting so that we can keep each other accountable.
He resisted in agreeing boundaries were the issue but finally agreed. I told him that a universal boundary should be absolutely no physical striking or threats of physically or hurting of any kind toward one another. To that he said that his boundary equivalent to that was “no disrespect/raising my voice to him.” He said that when he is disrespected, he feels he is being verbally abused by me and it feels as terrible as I feel when he slaps me on the arm/leg/head.
In theory, this sounds “right.” He says that I am making a double standard when I put a boundary on his behavior but that he cannot on me. And yet, something does not seem right at all about what he is saying. I agree that disrespecting your husband is as sinful as physically striking your spouse in anger. Is it biblical to see these exactly the same in terms of setting “off limit” boundaries in disagreements?
Answer: Your struggle to think clearly in this muddle is common to women who live with abusive men. I want to help clarify some important truths. First, the sin may be the same, but the consequences are not. His sin of hitting you is not just sinful, it’s illegal.
Second, your husband’s rage and subsequent acts of violence toward you are not uncontrollable. He has total control and limits himself right now to certain levels of physical violence (that he feels are acceptable). His behavior is always his choice.
In addition, I’m sure he has experienced disrespect from other people in his life – his employer, a rude driver, your children, a friend, or an enemy. People sin against us all the time in many ways and sometimes we do get angry. However, that doesn’t mean we hit them. In fact, isn’t that what we teach our children NOT to do when someone takes their toy or makes them mad? We don’t hit people when we’re mad. Period!
Let me ask you a question. Does your husband hit other people when he feels disrespected? What do you imagine a police officer would say if your husband used that as his excuse when he hit someone who disrespected him in traffic or at the mall?
Your husband feels entitled to hit you when he is mad and you have chosen not to initiate legal consequences that would protect you from this kind of abusive behavior.
Third, your husband says that it is his God-given right to be respected. Does he also believe that it is your God-given right to be safe, feel loved, and cherished in your marriage? Therefore, when he fails to love and cherish you and you feel hurt or angry, would it be okay with him if you hit him?
I want you to be crystal clear on something. You will fail your spouse and he will fail you. Sometimes these failures are big but often they occur in little ways. When working with couples, I often hear, “He doesn’t love me like I’d like or she doesn’t respect me like I want her to.”
The truth is, no spouse can always give us what we want even if what we want is a good and godly thing. Hurt and disappointment occur in every marriage. But is abusive behavior or speech an appropriate response to our disappointment and anger when our spouse fails to give us what we want? Jesus says “Never!” The Bible labels that kind of behavior as sin and is never justified.
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Your husband’s entitlement thinking has deceived him into believing that since he’s entitled to be respected, he’s entitled to hit you when you’re not complying with what he wants. That is not true.
How do other men handle being disrespected by their wives? They might pray for their wife. They might talk with their wife. They might get counseling as a couple. A much healthier response to his disappointment or hurt, if you don’t respect him, is for him to say, “Honey, that hurts me when you talk to me that way. Would you please stop?” Or even, “When you talk to me that way, I can’t hear you. I’m ending the conversation.”
As far as boundaries – you’re right, you will never feel safe to have a conversation with your husband let alone disagree if you fear for your safety. Also, I’m not sure of his definition of disrespect. You were very clear with your definition of what you want stopped, no physical threats or physical violence. His definition was fuzzy – “No disrespect or raising your voice.”
Does that mean that when you feel strongly about something or disagree, you can’t speak with an elevated voice without him feeling disrespected? Does that mean that you cannot argue because he will feel you don’t respect his opinion? Does that mean you have to agree with everything he thinks because not to will feel disrespectful to him?
Ask him to define or describe for you the behavior you do that feels disrespectful to him. Is it calling him names? Is it swearing at him? Is it rolling your eyes? If you know what it is specifically, then you can decide whether or not you can agree to stop or change it. If you don’t know what it is, then it’s much harder to stop disrespecting him (in his eyes).
Finally, in order to live together in a safe way, you both need to agree when either one of you feels unsafe, the one who feels unsafe can call a time out. That means you stop the
It’s important for you to realize those seemingly lesser violent incidents like pushing or hitting often escalate in intensity and frequency over time to more dangerous levels. I’m concerned about your long term safety as well what it says to your children who see their father justify and excuse his treatment of their mother by hitting her and then blaming her. Over time that pattern can lead to your children doing the same; blaming you and acting abusively towards you when they feel frustrated or angry with you. They also may very well end up blaming you for “ruining the family” when you’ve had enough of his abuse and want to separate or end the marriage.
Friends, how do you wade through the confusion of blame-shifting when someone blames you for their bad feelings or sinful actions?
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I think one appropriate boundary would be to say, “If you hit me, I will call the police.”
@Laura I said this to my husband the day after the first time he hit me and he saw it as a threat. This is why I am scared because mindset is everything and he doesn’t even know what he did was so wrong. Not only wrong but the magnitude of it and the affects it has and what it means …
Please help me . I am in the exact situation. Been married for two years. He slapped me on two occasions and one time he spanked me like a child.
He says it is because of my disrespect.
No one has the right to put their hands on a person to harm them. This statement changed my life. I had never heard it.
Can you help me. IAM 2 year married to my husband and everytime when I talk to him or raising my voice to him or swearing at him he always say that IAM disrespectful to him. He hit me when I speak my mind. And he always told me to shut up. He point me in my face and push me around or choke me. What can I do I don’t wanna loose my husband. I do so much for him IAM cleaning the house, making food, having sleepless nights because of my 2 year old he Neva help me. Like I said IAM cooking, cleaning the house,doing the washing, when his sick IAM always there to help him but when IAM in pain or when IAM sick I have to do everything he Neva take Me out. When I ask him to help me with something he always takes long to come help me. I cant have a conversation with him and speak my heart he always shuts me or walk during the conversation away and IAM always wrong . Help
Desiree, if he hits, threatens you or chokes you call 911. That is against the law and you are in danger. Before you wait for the next time however, I strongly suggest you call the domestic violence hotline and ask for help. Their number is 1800 799 SAFE. You have a chid who is watching this and also being traumatized. Understand that this is not normal, and you cannot have a healthy or normal conversation or even argument with a man who harms you when you speak your mind. Please do not wait. This is dangerous for you and your child.
Hi hear you. Im sorry. Im so in love w my husband he says he loves me how ever acts like he hates me. I cant do anything right. Today our annivrasy and i had to eat without him. I cooked for him. He told me he didnt want to be w me today. Then drove off while i stayed and cleaned. I have no one i can talk to. Even when i fell broke my neck he didnt talk to me for 5 days. He is so mean.
I always am the nlbigger person but why dose he insit on demanding i answer his 3500 questions then say hell hit me if i speak or ask why am i talking.
He tells me everyone hates me. He calls me names iv never been called! Sorry to vent. Hinding in the dark room till he falls asleep.
Maybe hell show love tomorrow. We are both stressed.
No you’re not wrong. And don’t ever, ever think that or say that to yourself. You are a caring person like me. Problem is you’re too caring!! Some people take advantage of that to hide their own flaws. Some men are that afraid to look inside themselves that they will always blame anything under the sun then actually be able to reflect, look inside themselves and actually hold themselves accountable for their own behaviours. Instead you can still be a caring person!! But instead It’s about finding a better balance of also caring for yourself.
And a real important part of that is the need to set some boundaries. And learning how to set them. Read up on this for yourself. For eg one would be what do you see as acceptable behaviour in your life and what you don’t? Another would be what time am I going to give to nurture myself? And what am I going ti do with that time? And in regards to sharing a household? What rules can be put in place so everyone equally has household chores to do. Are you in paid employment? If not do. Your relationship needs to be balanced for equal respect. That also means financially. So yes it’s all about respect. Without respect there is no love. And without having clear boundaries in place there is no respect. But even after that if your partner or husband still treats you in these ways, hold him accountable say he’s not respecting you. Which if he still acts in these ways even after that then that’s it you need to leave him because nothing more can be done. And if he can’t see that then HE has issues. Which he either gets further help with to change those which can take time and he had to be really willing and open to work on it and have a professional to hold him accountable whilst doing so. But that’s it, there’s nothing more you can do. The best thing you can do at that point is to let him go. Because you deserve better. And anything less is just not love okay. ❤️💖 Be strong 💪 girl. Things will get better whether you’re with him or not. I know it’s hard to see what’s best to do when you’re that close in it 24/7. But create some space for yourself to see better. To be able to think more clearly and setup as said better boundaries, structure and routine for yourself. For respect, for self love. And create a good group of friends around you. Especially at this time. Very important. And spend time with them too. Less focus on him. And believe me if you put all that in place, he will either have more respect for you. And do his share of the house chores! Or he won’t. And as said if he won’t then there’s that’s not love okay. That’s when you leave and you find someone that can and is willing to do these things therefore actually does love you. X
But yes Desiree, as Leslie says if he hits you, threatens you or chokes you that’s unacceptable behaviour. It’s against the law. He had the issues Desiree and the only thing you can do is remove yourself from the situation. Because he needs to respect the fact that you have the right to feel safe. That is your right as anyone else’s. And if he doesn’t respect that then yes it’s over. You need to leave him knowing you deserve better. It’s ONLY and I mean ONLY if he respects that can you look at the other points I wrote. But otherwise as Leslie, this is the bottom line. And if he can’t respect you in that way. Then yeah there’s no love. You need to move out, get closure and know that you deserve better. X
Desiree, you’re not wrong. And don’t ever think that or say that to yourself. You are a caring person like me..but it’s when unfortunately we can be too caring that’s when it’s a problem. Because some people can take advantage of that to hide then their own flaws behind it. Some men are that afraid to look inside themselves that they will always blames anything under the sun then actually be able to reflect, look inside themselves and actually hold themselves accountable for their own behaviours. Instead you can still be a caring person. It doesn’t mean the opposite. but instead it’s putting that amount of care equally if not more on yourself. Finding a better balance of also caring for yourself. And a really important part of that and to have any healthy relationships is about setting boundaries. And how to set them. A lot of people don’t do this but it’s extremely important. Otherwise you’re vulnerable to letting everything in your life. Even things which are actually just NOT acceptable. And when we’re also too kind or caring to others it can be blinding to know how to set boundaries but boundaries is about then also about knowing how to apply that same level of kindness or care to ourselves too if not more. Where you can read up on this yourself but an eg. Would be what do you see as acceptable behaviour in your life and what do you don’t? Another would be beyond what anyone else says or thinks because you’re well-being is important too-what am I going to do for myself, to nurture myself? And what time am I going to give to that for me? And in regards to sharing a household with anyone, another example would be what weekly rules can be put in place so that everyone shares the house chores and cooking to do? Because that’s love. If you are not in paid employment, do for confidence and self respect. And because relationships need to balanced for equal respect. That also means financially. Learn to be your own boss, not rely on any man. Which to conclude it’s all about respect. Without respect there is no love. And if there is no clear boundaries as to what you expect and what you want in your life to what you don’t-there is no respect. So certain structure is necessary for any relationship. But yes as Leslie says if he hits you, threatens you or chokes you that’s unacceptable behaviour. It’s against the law. He has the issues. And if he can’t see that. Then Desiree and the only thing you can do is remove yourself from the situation. Because he needs to respect the fact that you have the right to feel safe. That is your right as anyone else’s. And if he doesn’t respect that then yes it’s over. You need to leave him knowing you deserve better. It’s ONLY and I mean ONLY if he respects that can you look at the other points I wrote above. But otherwise as Leslie, safety is the bottom line. And if he can’t see to respect that as anyone’s right. To want to see how wrong that is in himself. To want to help himself. Then I’m sorry but there is no love. You need to move out, get closure and know that you deserve better. X
Please please I emplore you to get out of this situation it will only get worse. Being afraid of loosing your husband should not be #1. Your child comes 1st. I only say this because I was in your situation of a very jealous and a man thought I disrespected him on a daily. Abuse only got worse then could have lost my life. I was scared, alone and unsure but I finally had no choice but to go to a women’s shelter. I didnt want to go because of the unknown or to be labeled as a domesticly abused spouse. The list went on. D- let me tell you it opened my eyes the help they gave me and the other great women ive met in my situation with children.. Very respectful and they help you find a safe place and give you resources. I.dont know what state your in but please 🙏 think of yourself and that beautiful child. If mom’s stressed baby stressed. Being a mother myself and had sent my child so he wouldn’t see the abuse. I had to in order to find a way to get out. It was the hardest thing ive done. I dont want that for you. But it kept him safe. We as mother’s do and sacrifice so much for our children and families on a daily basis but it should not be by a hand or verbal. Id tell you my story but please your stronger then you think. Its ok to start over its ok. Its not an ending its a new beginning at something greater for you and your baby.
You have to BE the boundary. Of course it’s a threat. A threat to stand up for yourself and disallow illegal destruction. Mindset is NOT everything. I’m sure the cops can fix his “mindset” lol.
I’m sorry you have to go through this. I have been in an abusive relationship since I was pregnant with our children. I have been married now for eight years and he has been abusive with me a year into our relationship being married. I never told a soul what he did, he even pushed me down and almost gave me a concussion when I was pregnant with her twins I was ashamed to tell anybody or anyone what he has done to me made me feel like I was nothing. I’ve never experience abuse in my life and I am fed up. About two years ago , I was in a deep depression and I slowly started to talk to somebody and cheated and he found out big mistake..after That was the most abuse I have ever been through practically beat me. I had no one to go to except for him. I had to apologize, of course, and he told me the only way that the kids can see me is if I stayed with him Now moving forward during the course of these past two years I have called the police on him because I was very afraid after he many times I was trying to leave him. After he got arrested and came home, he told me he would never do it again and beg me to lie in the courtroom that he didn’t do anything to me. During this time he turned my whole family against me and his family just to only say that I cheated on him and now they are disgusted at me. I never told anybody about anything that he has done to me , because I was ashamed so all they know is that I cheated on him. I’m really trying to figure out what to do. He threatens me and says if I don’t listen to him, it’ll buy by his rules.
Perfect
You can’t say that to an abuser. You just have to get away from them.
Hello goodnight Im not sure who will see my comment but Im all the way from Belize in the Caribbean. Ive been living in an abusive relationship since 2019 and this is exactly the case. He beats me up almost every single day because he says I disrespect him if I get upset or say something I dont like… I really need advice and help as to what to do next as Im a sickly person and I also have a child with this guy…
Yes, I will do this in a heartbeat.
Leslie,
This is an excellent reply to a very important topic. Not just the physical part of abuse but the mindset that is revealed in the writer AND her husband.
The fact that she is ‘even’ negotiating with her husband indicates dangerous destructive cycles that she might be in denial of or needing serious intervention about her rationalization over the abuse she is currently in.
The mindset of the husband is also important to see as you pointed out about his possible definition of disrespect. SO KEY!
My husband had and sometimes struggles with this area of defining disrespect.
While he has never been technically used physical action to harm and hurt he has been emotionally and verbally destructive- with the capacity of blame shifting to an expert level.
My husband used to define my difference of opinion as disrespect, or if I had any issue to be resolved. Many things were feelings of disrespect if he wasn’t getting back the mirror he was looking for. It took ALOT of intervention for him to rewire his mindset on how he defined disrespect. This was one root of many that created a lot of problems in our marriage.
It also was a signal of a maturity issue too,
This blame shifting is really saying I will not take personal responsibility for my behavior.
To wade through the confusion and see clearly…
1. Keep a journal or notes on your phone- read them, look for patterns
2. Get SAFE others involved – professional counseling essential
3. Draw near Jesus like never before,detach emotionally from your resistant abuser – May need to physically separate.
4. Get Support group 2-3 people at min.
5. Educate yourself as if you are having to climb Mt Everest.
Lundy Bancroft is a good resource.
6. If possible depending on your own recovery – Invite the offender into recovery and see what their choice is by action only not their words.
One must keep a fact journal.
Facts are critical even if the abuser doesn’t want to acknowledge anything or entertain a conversation- trust me often they won’t and if they do it will blow to again WW3.
Writer your attempts at educating your husband and giving ground rules about physical abuse is concerning because you are not speaking to a 2 yr old.
Does he sit down with you and tell ‘you not to hit him’ when you don’t feel cared for or when you feel hurt or disagree with him?
I would assume that this doesn’t go the other way.
It isn’t just his physical actions that are deeply scary but his mindset is far more problematic. He needs interventions!!!
Writer- this husband you are married to is currently missing ‘critical marriage material’ to be in place where the Lord can be glorified.
As a Christian, your covenant and ambassadorship is with the Lord first and for-most.
You are a daughter of the King and hopefully that will help you seek detachment so things won’t continue to get foggy for you.
Prayers for God’s wisdom and will here 🙏
Leslie, the writer and others;
One more important thing…
Early on in the discovery of my husbands destructive MINDSET it was also disrespectful to him if I had ‘needs’ that were not his own or needs he could not relate to.
He saw me needing something different or needing something from him that didn’t come natural as disrespectful.
Aly and others, I am late stepping in here because somehow my name got dropped and I didn’t see this earlier. I’ve missed you all!
I think that your point about defining what he calls disrespectful is important. The writer needs to “sweep her own side of the street” here, to be sure that her behavior is God-honoring. It’s one thing to have a different opinion from his, if that’s what he calls disrespectful, but it’s another matter entirely how she expresses that opinion. If, when she expresses it in a calm and respectful way, he still gets angry, then that’s on him. But she needs to be very careful how she expresses herself so that she isn’t really agitating him. As Leslie said, eye rolling and name calling are definitely not respectful behaviors.
I so agree with this Aly, and it reminds me regretfully (but needfully) of the ways I expressed myself to my husband’s verbal attacks and other things (self-defensiveness, nasty comments about his work ethic, and other things ) : …it clouds the waters and has me going into thoughts of “if I had only been like this rather than that” – though I still know the abuse was not right either way. I just had SUCH a hard time with disappointment, resentment, and similar that is FELT nearly impossible to respond in love. I wish I had all of the time! ( : Thank you!
I just saw this on a secret betrayal trauma recovery site on FB:
I wish someone told me this when I was married. When an addict or a family member that supports the addict make a claim about me or refuse to hear my story, explaining myself just does not work because of how our brain is wired.
I am a therapist and do a lot of work with points of resistance and cognitive dissonance. I am currently reading a huge dissertation on dissonance because we work with a lot of resistant addicts. Turns out that our brains are wired to literally “maintain itself against he intrusion of new and potentially upsetting information.” What this means is that no angel and no amount of evidence can change the minds of someone tat has decided to protect their current belief system UNLESS they choose to challenge that by going to therapy and getting an experiential therapist (still reading the dissertation). I suffered so much from trying to explain myself and repeating myself and gathering evidence so I can once and for all prove tat my exhusband was abusive. Well, his parents never did see all the mounts of evidence. Through my personal recovery work I learned to allow them to have their own reality as I know what real reality was. Now, I feel like I further understand (and feel validated) that they are literally not capable of seeing evidence. Maybe this does not help anyone but knowing the science behind it helped me.
This really helped me a lot. Thank you for sharing. My husband blames me for our 13 year marriage ending (I had an affair 6 years ago) However I finally decided to get a divorce because of his emotional and psychological abuse towards me and our two young daughters. It just dawned on me that his ” brain is wired to literally “maintain itself against the intrusion of new and potentially upsetting information.” namely that his behaviour was the cause of me leaving our marriage so instead he convinced himself that we are getting a divorce because of my affair that happened 6 years ago!
Yes Olga and he will deny taking responsibility for his actions and often play the victim when caught too. Have you done some research about Narcissism?
Hello. Olga had the affair, not her husband.
He WAS the victim.
But it sounds like perhaps Olga asked forgiveness for (?) the affair…etc., and that MORE RECENTLY she has been hurt by ongoing emotional and psychological abuse from her husband (who is supposed to protect and…). And even if he were to say that this was the result of her affair (giving himself justification for the abuse – though Olga did not say what the abuse was, I’m sure she is probably mature enough to know that it was abuse?), it in fact does not give him an excuse by any stretch of the imagination to defile his role as husband (protect…cherish…) and daily(?) cut his wife down (do you all realize this is ongoing damage to one’s soul?!?!?!). One can take only so much, and it is NEVER justified no matter what one has done or does (I think that is an ongoing theme in all of these conversations). God bless you all – very much!
I am reading all these scenarios. I hit my husband on the back of the head with a 19 page rocked up paper out of frustration. I know I was wrong! But, he grabbed it from me and with all his might facing me- hit me accross my face with horrible anger and in front of my 14 year old daughter who ran and hide. This is the worst thing I’ve-he has ever done in our 15 year marriage. I pushed his buttons, he pushed mine. A typical fight that turned violent. What do we do. He blames it totally on me that I brought the worst out in him and now pretends I don’t exist. Helpful comments , please
Sounds like some blame shifting and justification is going on in your mind. It is never okay to have an affair. You had lots of options and a betrayed spouse has a biblical right to divorce you and marry someone else. Time has nothing to do with it. When you break that sacred trust you have destroyed something precious. It may take him 6 or more years to heal, see clearly whether you are truly repentant and broken and make a decision. Your minimization of the harm you did, blame, and bitter tone tells me you are not sorrowful at all. You could instead be thankful that he gave you any time at all to show him you have taken full responsibility and had a heart change.
Not sure what you mean Carolyn as there was no affair in this question. The husband is clearly blameshifting his own anger issues onto his wife, and she never said she had an affair. But even if she or he had an affair in while in the marriage, abusive behavior is not justified or excusable. Nor is an affair. So when these breaches in marital trust comes up, they must be dealt with in a wise and Biblical way or the marriage relationship stays broken.
I think Carolyn was talking to Olga, not the original question writer.
Replying to Mary from 2024 comment.
I understand frustration with a husband.
Out of frustration with my husband having just gambled away $5000 out of checking I had to unplug the TV to get his attention as he just kept yelling at me. I know he’s a compulsive gambler and he was so very angry at himself for having lost all that money but I needed for him to listen to me telling him that many checks were now bouncing and I couldn’t stop it. He didn’t want to hear it but I had to let him know what was happening. His response to all this was to shove me on the floor. I just kept talking because I realized I finally had his undivided attention. Rhat was the 1st time he had used physical force against me. He did not apologize and then the same thing happened again in rhe kitchen many months later. I was in the kitchen trying to cook dinner and he decided he wanted something else. We were both going for the same pot and he shoved me away so he could get it. I did hit the floor and luckily wasn’t Injured … he did not apologize. I realized he was actually enjoying all the shovng as he’s never had the opportunity to physically fight anyone before so now I’m the target for sll his frustration and anger. Do you think it is something we can work through or am I looking forward to more years of being shoved and this escalating. I don’t have anywhere else to go and everyone in the family and friend group is afraid of him so they have alienated me too.
Dakotah, I’d encourage you to call the Domestic Violence Hot LIne at 1800 799 SAFE. Please do not wait. Your husband is testing you to see how far he can go now that you’ve not called the police on him. You do not deserve to live this way. Take care of you.
My father is like this..(not the hitting part) but the feeling disrespected if I have a difference of opinion or don’t think or do the way he thinks or does . He gets out of sorts and says I’m being disrespectful. So I’m curious to know the generation of the lady who is afraid of her husbands physical abuse? My dad is 74. I am 51. As I grew into adulthood I found myself (now looking back) being the same way as my dad is. Getting upset trying to persuade someone to agree with me or do something the way I did. Fortunately my now 28 yr old son pointed out this behavior a few years ago and so much more self damaging behaviors that I didn’t realize to the point that I prayed and asked forgiveness from my son and My God! And began to purpose it in my heart to listen to others opinions and see others ways of life and not take it personally. I’ve grown so much and in that growth I’ve done my best to help my dad see that just bc I have a different opinion or a thought of my own it does not mean I’m being disrespectful. He is now growing to. Although he can still fall back into those old like long mind set beliefs and get upset. But the steps he’s taken to be more aware that everyone is different is such a blessing to me. So my thought here is “could it be a generational thing” possibly raised like I was? My prayers for you and your husband in this journey. And safety of Our Lord and Savior round about you constantly! Amen
To what Connie said above – oh my gosh! It helps me tremendously in helping understand many held-onto mindsets in this situation. I have in the past looked into cognitive dissonance (not in this particular context however) and find it fascinating. I now find it even more fascinating in how it may apply in my own relationship situation – for all parties, probably even myself! God bless.
Connie,I’m reminded of the passage in Romans 1 about fools suppressing the truth…and God gives them what their deceitful hearts desire.It sounds like science is backing up the fact that the longer you deny truth and live in your own reality,the harder it is to recognize and receive truth when it is presented to you.I believe the Bible teaches this.We don’t know when people reach this so we are called to pray for sight for the (spiritually)blind and leave them in Gods hands.This is where I am with my husband after almost 6 months of separation. Fear keeps people trapped in cages of denial,but God only dwells in truth because He is the truth and He removes the scales from our eyes as we humbly submit to Him.I like how you put it” allow them to have their own reality”.I think this is exactly what Jesus did when people turned away from Him,he allowed them to choose to walk away.
Wow Janice. I love this! I love when folks relate all of this back to something in God’s Word (truth) – and this is incredibly insightful! I just could not understand why my husband couldn’t seem to see certain things (which resulted often in blame-shifting), and so this is helping me a lot. I am praying too during this time of separation. But sometimes it seems that certain things are just so deeply ingrained (and for so long) that nothing apart from a miracle will free him from them (and thus I will continue to be most of the problem…). And at this point, I’m not sure how much a part of this I am supposed to be even though I know God hates divorce (that is NOT what I want; I would love the miracle – and in me too).
The real disrespect is his physical abuse of you – usually the claim of disrespect is a smokescreen for the truth. I have seen someone with stolen merchandise under their jacket claim the store clerk was disrespecting them!
I love Leslie’s quote that part of growing up is learning how to handle ourselves when we are disappointed, angry, and hurt when we don’t get what we want.
Thanks Leslie for speaking truth to help clear the fog!
The comment of disrespect also seems a red flag for Narcissistic Personality Disorder or it’s tendencies. I suggest the writer research that disorder and see if they see parallels. I also recommend Lundy Bancroft’s book, ” Why Does He Do That?.”
I think the last thing in the world you are doing is disrespecting your spouse, on the contrary, you are respecting someone who should not be respected at all!
It blows me away how our brains get affected by manipulation. How is it that this dear writer is so confused about such basic differences between something illegal ( striking another person) and her husband’s very vague definition of ‘feeling disrespected’.
I say this not in judgment at all because it took years of Bible Study to begin seeingt the truth about my own marriage as well as the way my FOO operates.
Just keep taking steps toward truth. Read your Bible ( better yet, do so in a safe Bible Study). Pray, pray, pray. Slow things down in your life ( especially conversations with your h and when you feel confused STOP the conversation – this was the mightiest tool I had at the beginning ( listening to my own instincts)). Keep wise counsel ( friends and a good counsellor).
Lean into The Lord. He IS Truth.
I agree and is because denial runs so thick in so many different levels
The layers are peeled away as they are received the way they are supposed to be to help us take steps regardless of the fear we feel.
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Offering women choices and not having to stay where they are and have a safe haven to heal. Safety + security +stability over time equals healing from trauma
The foundation provides a way to create a safe place for women to take healthy back… I am in the beginning stages and raise donations to fund this vision
Praying for you all
I hope this will help the writer or any other person with a similar struggle. This video perfectly addresses the dynamics of abuse described by the writer: Dynamics of Abuse by Bob Hamp
Liz,
This is excellent! Thank you for posting. I’m pretty sure I watched/listened to the right one, it has some length but my goodness… so well described.
This video was spot on!! It did a great job at explaining it in terms I could understand. Thanks for sharing it.
What is she hits. Spits in her husband’s face, curses at him and does it repeatedly till he snaps and hits back..no matter how men react when it’s the other way around we are wrong..its hypocritical
JOhn Doe: Not true. If she does that he should call the police, just as I would advise a woman to do the same. Marriage is meant to be the safest relationship on earth and if one person treats the other abusively, the proper response isn’t to be abusive back, but to flee. Proverbs reminds us The prudent see danger and take refuge. Call the police, Separate. Do not put up with that kind of treatment. It not only dishonors you, it dishonors the one who is acting that way, and for you to excuse, justify, rationalize abusive reactions back is not healthy.
Great video that spells it out very well. Thanks for sharing Liz
Great video that spells it out very well. Thanks for sharing Liz!
Thanks Liz…this is a good video that spells things out well.
Boundaries regarding raising your voice should be mutual too. He doesn’t get to raise his voice with you, but you must be quiet and gentle mannered. Can’t have the rules both ways.
Good point Sunny, often in these deeply disturbing destructive relationships one person makes a bunch of self serving rules. If some one gave me a pen and paper right now I could write a list of the “rules” my abusive spouse insisted upon.
Thanks for bringing up this point. Ah…yes….the never ending rules with terrible consequences for the victimized/manipulated/objectified partner who dares to breathe in their presence.
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This guy is not a Christian or a man. No man treats a woman that way. Get you and your children away from him ASAP. He won’t change, you are the strong one for putting up with that treatment. Get out. God does not condone any abuse. Stay strong. God Bless.
Thank you for your firm stance Chuck.
With a Christian upbringing it makes me angry and sad I was brought up to be so nice. That nice is more important than truth. And now that I know better I have so few words in the moment and so little courage because I am such a beginner at it so my situation drags on. My unspoken but acted on boundaries have decreased the frequency but certainly not changed his heart as it still slips out.
I am angry and sad that this woman who is being hit has to question herself if she is doing the right thing when she asks him to stop and he feels this is a negotiating point to get what he wants. Angry and sad that my friend now is stepping into the exact wrong situation of going for couples counselling with a Christian lay counsellor and her EDH will likely get away with years of manipulating the situation even though I have shared with her truths and resources contrary.
Why is this so hard to step out of whether the abuse is subtle or overt? I’m looking for that moment when the pain of changing is greater than the pain of staying the same…pain either way.
Might it be wise to begin to formulate an exit plan? You can choose to enact it at your discretion.
Exit plan guidelines are available on most domestic violence sites and from the national hotline.
Gather documents and make copies (insurance, passports, bank account numbers, titles, mortgage documents, phone records) and secure funds, extra medications. Make a spare set of keys. Have a ready to go overnight bag. Get a pay as you use phone. Line up a trusted friend. Seek legal advice. Etc..etc…
Oh my gosh, Annie, your question at the end of your January 22 post just begs for an entirely separate blog! Thank you for it. I believe you summed it up well when you said “the pain of changing” (did you mean that the pain of change is less than the pain of it staying the same?). In my own circumstance, my answer(s) would be under that umbrella “pain of changing”: not wanting to let go of the “nice feeling” of being part of a couple (even a volatile couple!)…having to uproot from an already-established home, family, routine (which usually includes friends, family members, church…)…the opposite side of the same coin above: having to deal with the prospect of being single (again) and what that entails. Shoot! I don’t want to add to that pain of change by going into detail here, but by holding onto the pain of the relationship I have hopefully temporarily lost a lot of things anyway due to an injury that has taken time to heal (which includes sometimes what feels like my sanity because of not understanding where his treatment and my behaviors begin and end — what I could do/could have done differently and how much that may or may not have changed my husband’s responses). All of that said is to say if your mind feels tangled and/or you experience even just a modicum of peace more thinking about the change versus thinking about remaining (and I know even THAT can change from moment to moment at times!)…just keep seeking wise counsel and prayer and privately journaling is also an excellent way. I don’t know your specific situation, and this may or may not apply, but things can escalate if certain other things are allowed to continue. God bless.
Oh my gosh; this forum is amazing. I am so grateful for it. My husband has physically abused me, but most of the abuse that occurs in our little family has been verbal – often mutual, sadly. I take part of the blame because I know my motivations for marrying were not godly (even though I am a Christian), and that guilt has permeated the entire length of time – before and after the marriage – the relationship. This deeply frustrates and hurts my now-husband, which touches raw nerves of rejection and insecurity, which leads to what I believe are deeply ingrained responses of name calling, sarcasm, and mocking. These responses, in turn, only serve to convince me that I am reaping what I have sown by marrying (though deep down inside I know it is wrong), and to often give back responses that only serve to make him more hurt, more frustrated, more angry at me. This has been the impetus I think for some of the physical. But what was shared here is all-too-familiar. My husband knows ultimately that how he treats me is not right; but I guess in order to avoid the reality that this is really part of him(?)(ONLY part; he has some very wonderful, wonderful qualities that drew me to him), or…I’m not sure…quite often it comes back to that it is me who “pushes buttons” (I have even been told that by my congregation) and that I need to change (and to this day, I am very hazy on what that change is supposed to be; I hear the word “you” so often and I can almost FEEL the word when it is said now). I WANT to change to be a supportive; encouraging; and yes submissive wife, but when I even ask that question (about how I can change), I am told things close to that I should know what that is (though at other times I am told that I am not equipped to “diagnose” my own issues)…and even that I have deep spiritual strongholds from which I need to be delivered. All of this makes my mind feel twisted and my heart feel sad as I often feel like I will never be able to be that which my husband desires me to be. We are separated, and I don’t THINK I want the marriage to end; but I also sadly can’t see myself living under the conditions described above. I am so torn right now about wanting to go back to my little family (and congregation, which I love), but knowing what happened most recently between my husband and me can’t happen again, along with all of the abuse that led up to it. I have been seeking counsel (now including this marvelous site); but my husband, though he says he knows he/we need counseling, has not been that hungrily seeking it (as much as he says he wants our marriage to work) and often comes back to both referring to my problems in the marriage and that we should be able for the most part to work it out together. I wish I could believe that; but wisdom and love says otherwise. I hope that’s what it is. Thanks and God bless.
He is not fit to diagnose your issues either. Have you read Lundy Bancroft’s books yet?
So what that you married him for the wrong reasons. None of us really know what marriage is until we are in it. Many people selected mates across the centuries for poor reasons. Time to live in the present. Clean up your act an hold your tongue.
Record his abusive words and set boundaries. He does not get the right or have the authority to criticize you. You are a child of God who Christ died for. Be loving even if you are not being loved. Then his bad behaviors will be more obvious. Don’t engage in argument or conflict. Get individual counseling for yourself.
Read, listen, learn and pray. Then you will know what action to take. Watch Patrick Doyle’s videos and call domestic violence hotlines for more information.
This is such great advice as a Man reading thus. Helps me to control my anger in every situation when I’m triggered by my wife and try to talk and reason things over
I desire to honor the Lord in what I say here. The entrapment which comes from being in an abusive marriage relationship, sometimes, does not stem from how we treat our own spouse. It has a lot to do with how each of us were raised.
It depends upon who our parents were, how they treated each other, how they treated their children (us) what type of fellowship we had in church growing up, including abusive relational values which were very strict, or on the other hand, very lenient. If our parents showed love to one another, whether there was violence, or there was a mutual respect for each other.
The way we were raised does have a profound affect on how we perceive our own marriages.
I have read Leslie’s book ‘The Emotionally Destructive Marriage.’ I have Lundy Bancroft’s book ‘Why Does He Do That?’; I have read Cloud and Townswend’s book, ‘Boundaries’. I have been on at least four counseling sites online, on Facebook, and have read countless sites about Narcissism, Scociopaths, etc. in order to be well armed with facing my own marriage dilemma.
I have prayed, I have read major portions of scripture in order to fortify myself armed with God’s Word, and also proving out what I have read or heard from other’s experiences
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I have been blessed beyond measure from the arsenal of beautiful counsel, which has enabled me to be strong in the Lord.
I completely understand about what Aly went through with her husband. There are men, no matter how strong and loving and kind the wife is to the man, that the husband feels entitled to whatever goes through his immature imagination. This type of man is spiritually stunted. My husband just recently told me that he does not know how to change. At least he admitted it.
For years, all I could think about was, what am I doing wrong to deserve the verbal, emotional, and mental abuse, and once, I was hit for a very minor thing. This was twenty years ago, before there was the computer to turn to for advice and council, with all of the domestic violence information. It was a time when the church was NOT coming to the aid of women and some men, who were in abusive relationships.I know this to be true, as I had gone to one of the minister’s wives, and had told her part of my marriage plight, and she had told her husband, and the next Sunday, the minister came up and his short, one line sentence, he said ‘The ball’s in your court now.” No help, no council, no nothing.
At the time, I had even confronted my husband with his abusive, and all he said was talking about his family’s FOO, repulsed him.His dad was a man of severe verbal and physical abuse. My husband did not want to address why he was the way he was. Just like his dad. His words were, “I am not like my dad.” His own sister one time confided in me that her brother (my husband) was far worse than his dad ever was..
It showed to me that my husband was a very damaged individual, with not a lot of hope in him ever changing.
I will site an example of how he still thinks. Today, I made lunch, heated up some leftover pizza, for my disabled son, and then heated it up for my husband. I was fixing a sandwich for myself. I told my son to wait for dad and not eat first. But my son, being mentally handicap, ate anyway. So, my husband came in, and began eating while I was still making my own sandwich. By the time my husband was finished, I was just sitting down at the table. He said “Do you do that on purpose? Wait until I have the last bit of food in my mouth before you sit down?” meaning, my food was not ready so that I could eat with him. So, I said “No. I fix food for everyone else first, and then do my own, and sit down.” I also said to him, “You can imagine what you want”. So he actually sat there, as this has happened before, where he gets up from the table as I am sitting down. So, I am thinking to myself… Hey! It’s just a casual Saturday lunch! Ya! know!. BUT, it was all about himself feeling slighted, or shunned, in his own imagination
When he had first sat down for lunch he could have chosen to wait for ME to sit down so we could eat together. But, no, that type of thinking does not cross the mind of a man who feels everything revolves around himself.
That is how our marriage has been. Mostly about how it has been about him, and his entitlement.
Now, why I am saying this is, as a wife, we can worry about the little things which will annoy our husbands, which is circular reasoning which gets us nowhere on the road to recovery of our own healing. We have to let go of the angst of our husbands, and let God do the work in the husband’s heart. As much as we would like for our husband to change, it is not going to happen, if we allow ourselves to be trampled time and time again, without just letting it go, and moving forward with our own lives for the Lord.
If we are thinking too much of what our husband’s next reaction is going to be; our minds are preoccupied with how we can answer our husband’s next verbal assault; which is ends in over-thinking the problem. This is unhealthy, and does not allow the Holy Spirit to reign in our hearts.
What we should be doing, is thinking more of what the Lord wants us to be doing with our situation, and work on building ourselves up in the most holy faith, and in God’s Word daily. And for some, this means planning for a way of escape, in God’s timing for us.
I agree with one of your last sentiment Many Years, “what we should be doing is thinking more of what the Lord wants us to be doing with our situation,”
And so I ask a simple question: why are you preparing him food, at all?
When you open yourself up like that you are opening yourself up to be ‘trampled on’.
You are a daughter of the most high king. When you accepted Christ your very nature changed (John 1:12-13), you are no longer a prisoner of generational sin, or of your FOO.
Please guard your heart.
Hi, Nancy
Well, I have attempted to be a faithful and courteous wife, and God says to feed your enemies, and He will do the rest. So, I obey the Lord in that endeavor. Thanks for the question. God bless you! I am in an ‘Abigail’ situation. Please don’t over-think what God wants some of us to do, while we are ‘staying well.’
To the woman who originally wrote the question, I hope you ran. I hope you ran far and hard in the opposite direction of your husband. I hope now you look back on this and realize he didn’t love you, he just loved having a permanent outlet for all his frustrations. I hope you’re safe now. He will hit you again. He will find any reason to. I permanently lost my ability to feel the upper left side of the roof of my mouth because I was in your position once and didn’t quite understand all the warning signs being thrown my way. He hit me so hard across the face that I ended up bloodied and bruised on the floor in the kitchen unable to see out of one eye and several gashes on my face from where he slammed my head into the corner of the countertop of the kitchen island multiple times. With these men, you have to understand there is no saving them. They will only hurt you. I hope you’re in a better place now. Much love.
i have exactly the same problem as this lady he just did it again to me across my ear in front of my son who is 10 i am stuck i have no family no job its been going on for years the disrespect the verbal emotional and physical abuse i would rather be dead than let my son see and hear this and live like this hes arrogant pridful nasty aggressive humilating degrading and toxic and teaches my son how not to be a man i am desperate to get out after so many years he thretens to murder me if i take my son and my son as much as he loves me wouldnt go with me as he is frarfull of his father and knows what he will do i have prayed for years about this my son means the world to me i could never leave him at the same time i cannot live like this
I hope you have called the police or gotten to safety by now. I hate to hear what is happening to you and so many other women. You do not deserve to be treated this way and what he is doing to you is not only immoral and wrong, it is illegal. Please get yourself some help for this. The DV hotline # is 1800 799 SAFE.
The government gives you a place to live for free called section 8. Also just get a restraining order on him. If he tries to lay another finger on you his ass will be in jail. Dont be scared. Do it for you and your son.
My husband keeps hitting and punching me. He absolutely hates me. I would leave but I have nowhere to go. I’m so scared of him. We have been married for 20 years and only in the last couple of years he’s started beating me.i don’t know what to do.
Domestic violence increases in frequency and intensity over time and it sounds like that’s happening to you. Please call the police and file a protection from abuse order. Beating you is illegal and you have every right to be safe in your own home. You can also call the domestic abuse hotline at 1800 799 SAFE to ask for help to develop a safety plan but please get out. You do not have to put up with this. God hates what is happening to you and wants you to be safe. Do you have children who are witnessing this?
Hi. I am in this Situation but first time he hit me, we have a 5 month old baby. Is there redemption for him or should I leave? What is the success rate of people that go through therapy? He doesn’t seem genuinely sorry and blames me for it like you mentioned above.
For the most part I agree with the article except for when the fights between spouses are compared to the fights that happen between regular people. You question it like “Would you get physically violent if this conversation happened with a friend/boss/etc.?” And the answer is maybe! That’s where the article fails to see that the dynamic between a couple living together is far different!
Sorry, but I don’t agree with you. If you don’t dare to hit, spit at people you don’t know and you do this to person you’re supposed to spend life with, then I think your priorities are wrong. Aggressor feels safe so they hit or insult. Sad but true. If you love somebody at least treat them better than a stranger.
(I am a GAY MAN in a gay relationship) [I do believe in GOD(my partner does not)
I am not sure but I think I am in an abusive relationship. I’m not tired for crying when i say the wrong thing. And the occasional physical abuse which is never permissible. No one will understand but I am just so mentally damaged. I cannot think straight please don’t tell anyone.
maybe it’s not that bad
but i think it is
i didn’t say anything that BAD
I can never have a rational conversation
I just don’t what to do sometimes life is bliss and sometimes it is the worst
I am scared this is my first time speaking out. But I can relate a lot to this question.
I am indeed emotionally and physically damaged.
I’m sorry that you are being treated badly, Alejandro. Your confusion is a big sign that it is a problem and that it is probably not you. Sometimes good and sometimes bad is a typical theme that many of us have experienced. You might research ‘abuse cycle’. Keep reading here, and above all, ask Jesus how He sees you and where He is in this situation. He cares about you more than know. Ask Him what your next step should be and try to find at least one friend who understands and will support you.
Alejandro,
Being hit or abused in any form is never ok. It’s wrong and completely unacceptable! Often an abusive person will blame it on the other person so they don’t feel the shame of their own ‘out of control behavior’.
Abuse in any form is out of control behavior! If you are being physically abused at times, you are most like being emotionally and mentally/spiritually abused on a regular basis. You said the occasional physical abuse happens but is not permissible. If it’s occurred and is occasional it’s been permissible by not having any serious consequences.
The partner you have is not healthy enough to be in a relationship of any kind. See if you can find a professional Christian counselor for yourself, because our souls need a lot of healing when we have been hurt in sacred places.
Also you said that you can’t have a rational conversation, this is one of the common things that those of us in destructive relationships can experience. It’s exhausting and it’s part of the abuse cycle!
Prayers and hugs for your safety and your healing journey. You are not alone and there is a lot of help and resources available.
Alejandro, I wept as I read your broken thoughts. Because I too am feeling like I can’t do anything. I do nothing right and can’t even finish a thought anymore. I don’t know what to do. I love my husband and we have 4 wonderful kids. He constantly tells me he doesn’t like me and is is abusive but when I finally get strong enough to pack up, he shows me love and I guess I’m so starved for it that it feels like he means it. I’m beginning to see now that he doesn’t. Sorry. I know this is not a solution or relevant. I just want you to know you aren’t alone and I just for some reason felt drawn to your words. I pray things get better.
I just left an abusive relationship in June. We were married for 15 years. He became verbally abusive when things didn’t go his way. It happened gradually. Towards the end of our marriage it got very bad. He developed an addiction and it got much worse. He blamed me for his drug use, blamed me for his affair, blamed me for his name-calling. He wanted a wife who is compliant and not disrespectful. His idea of respect was never questioning his choices or disagreeing. It became physically abusive in the last year. He started telling me that he should have put me in my place a long time ago. That every woman he knew had been hit and was better for it. The first time I was shocked, he put numerous lumps on my head with his knuckle. Afterwards he told me that he left no marks, therefore I had no right to feel abused and it was my fault for not knowing my place. The last time he bruised me badly, spitting on me, and telling me that not even my own family could stand me. He did this in the front yard and a neighbor called the police. He was arrested and I filed for divorce. Still he maintains that if I hadn’t made him so angry it wouldn’t have happened and he didn’t beat me because he did not use his fists. He blames his arrest on me being to loud and dramatic. I know he can controll it, he never abused me in front of our children, he always waited until they were not home or in another room. They did witness some of the emotional abuse and gaslighting though and they (teens) were already urging me to file for divorce before the physical abuse began. I struggle with depression, and confusion because he manipulated me for so long. I question whether my own memories and experiences are correct. I wish I had divorced him years ago but he told me that I was an unfit mother and that no one intelligent would give me custody of the kids. He was wrong and deep down I knew it.
Thank you for sharing this.
I would like some help. I’m not sure what steps take in my Marriage.
Almost 2years of marriage. But I’ve come to understand that he’s always been abusive. Started with name calling and asking fun of me. Saying I’m horrible etc.
He started threatening me with his fists. Because I was questioning whether or not he was having an affair.
I’m very jelous or simply very sensitive to how he looks and deals with other women. I think he flirts and he thinks it’s alright.
Whenever I bring this up he gets aggressive and hits me. I’ve started defending myself and hit him also. It’s terrible I know. What should do? I don’t feel safe, nor loved, understood etc.
Thank you for your help
The bigger problem is he doesn’t care how you feel and when you express it (I feel jealous or insecure, or offended by your interactions with other women) he hurts you. So you have two BIG Problems. One is he doensn’t care how you feel and second, he hurts you when you express how you feel. Where does that leave you in terms of a healthy marriage? No where. You do not have a viable, healthy marriage. Now the issue is, what do you want to do about it for you? You can’t change him.
Thanks for this reply. I am confused – my husband says my verbal abuse, yelling at kids, provoke him to hit kids. Acc to him my verbal abuse triggers him for physical abuse. He gets at me too. We otherwise have a good married life with 2 kids. But we end up having intense fights due to parenting differences, acc to him I shout at kids a lot and he can’t stand that. He clearly told me he doesn’t respect me and finds me a looser. Yes I doubt my marriage now but I also want to dissect the situation here.
Hi Leslie,
I really don’t have anyone to talk to or understands me , am really confused right now… my husband is telling me he will change and he is doing things to make me feel like he is like helping me out with chores but he’s hit me before and I tried to leave him before but due to personal circumstances I had no choice but to stay. I no longer feel happy and I feel like I’ve lost my identity and confidence. What should I do? Thank you.
Hi. Please I got married 2years ago. A year and some months to be precise. I dated my husband for about 8years before we got married and it was fun most times but I remember we had an argument once, I was behaving like a jerk so he slapped me. But we went past through all that, even dated 5more years before we finally got married. I’m not a saint, sometimes wen I get provoked by him, I can even insult him that’s he’s stupid, but I never mean anything I say. But it still hurts him. So he just resulted to hitting me. Since we got married, I’ve been hit on 4 different occasions by him. One time it was so merciless that he broke a stick on my body, gave me a headbutt and beat me mercilessly. All because I didn’t heed to what he said. Like I said, I’m not a saint, I throw tantrums most times which I’m trying to avoid but he still provokes me at times and he has promised to continue beating me anytime we have an argument and I insult him. I asked him why he can’t insult me back, he said he’s not a woman to be exchanging words with me. Please what do I do because these issues aren’t consistent but whenever they arrive, it can be brutal. And please what can I do as well to avoid insulting him whenever I’m angry. The highest insult I have used is ‘Youre stupid or mad’. And I admit by wrongs, yes I do but does it warrant getting beaten up??
Anonymous..
You don’t deserve to be hit and he doesn’t deserve to be insulted, no matter what. So I’d encourage you to work on how you handle your own anger, but if he hits you again, call the police. Battering is illegal jail might help him see that hitting you is not acceptable EVER.
I am sorry but I feel like you’re really downplaying domestic violence in your responses without really understanding domestic violence. When the wife “insults” her husband with those two words, she’s simply at this point defending herself the only way against a known abuser. Someone who broke sticks on her body and punches her. There’s nothing that can EQUAL what he has done to her but it almost feels like you are saying she’s also wrong or should hold herself back. This woman seems like she’s taken so much abuse that she’s even blaming herself for saying two words while he just beats her over and over. This is dangerous advice to give out to abused women.
Bethy, can you give me some examples of what you mean. I reread the blog and I don’t think I downplayed anything. What specific advice did you think was dangeous?
sound like you deserve each other. what else can someone say?
Anonymous,
This is not a safe environment to be in let alone wait for the next time your husband rationalizes his horrendous behavior. This is dangerous and needs serious intervention. You are not in a situation where you ‘wait’ to call the police. Living with someone where they think this behavior is normal to react to is not helping them or you move to a better healthier way.
Getting beaten is not fair. Stupid is not a word that should get you punched. Once I am hit, all bets are off. I will let you know in words what time it is. This is because getting beaten is so insulting, sometimes keeping quiet is so hard and the brain will reject the silence. The hitter then needs to get hit too when they say something wrong. Normally they have an aversion to getting beaten themselves.
This is the absolute worst thing she can do. He will increase the level of violence to gain control again and she may end up seriously injured or heaven forbid dead.
She needs to seek help from a trained therapist and call the police when he does this. Get to a safe place and call . She can’t control his behavior. She controls her own and instead of reacting to his she needs to respond and get help from law enforcemeny.
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This comment breaks my heart. If you value your life then you need to get away from this man. A man who loves you will not beat you mercilessly under any circumstances whatsoever. A man who says that to you let alone actually does that to you does not love you. He will continue to beat you. His abuse has nothing to do with you, so do not blame yourself. He will abuse any woman he is with. He needs professional help that you can not offer him, as do you. Please value your life and get far away.
Hello
I’m a husband of 6 years. I am here because I have crossed that line. I recently had a very bad argument with my wife that resulted in me slapping her face and throwing her to the floor. Am I sorry? Yes. But I’m here because I don’t know what to do. I don’t want to lose my family. I love this woman deeply. But I also can’t hurt her anymore. This was the worst one. She’s a firecracker, that’s no secret. Also a psychology major, she manipulates arguments to favor her narrative. When I say that engulfs me with rage, I’m completely pissed. Why do that to someone who is willing to die for you and the children?
Look I’m not perfect, I was a child with a mother on drugs and a jailbird father. I got into gangs and trouble as a youth. (Not looking for sympathy just a little clarity). I’ve done my best to make life better. I tried to become a better person. I do believe in giving respect to get it. I also believe in eye for an eye. Does these rules apply to my wife? Yes and no. You can’t just disrespect anyone and just believe you’re safe. If I walked around saying racial slurs, what would happen to me? I doubt because I didn’t hit anyone I wouldn’t be hit. I’m not approving violence please don’t get that idea. However this idea SOME women have that their disrespect can have no bounds but everyone else that encounters them must. That’s mind boggling.
Anywho.. we’ve tried sitting down and talking about own issues, we’ve tried to coming up with guidelines for us when things get rocky. She has told me she would stop manipulating me, she promised she wouldn’t switch my words around. (This is before any abuse occurred ever). I’m not perfect but I am only human, I have a fuse like anyone else. I’m willing to get help but I’m not a subservient man, I’ll be clear..I don’t mind submitting to things, and compromising. But I am the man in my relationship.
Please don’t attack me, I know I’m not 100 percent right. Hell I may be wrong completely but these are my feelings and opinions and I’m hoping this is a safe place
Romeo, thanks for sharing and certainly your wife may provoke you. But the honest reality is people provoke us all the time. If you provoked people with racial slurs and they beat you up, they would be arrested. Each person is responsible to manage their anger and their body in ways that does not cause harm to someone else. As a dad you certainly haven’t allowed your kid to beat up his or her brother because “he took my toy” or “He stuck out his tongue”. Even children are taught, “you may not hit your sister or brother”. So you have come a long way, good for you, but I remember when I had one of those “incidents” as a mother, I realized that even though I have come along way, I had a longer way to go if I wanted to be a safe, loving mother, even when my kids provoked me. Even when my kids smart mouthed me, I was still responsible for my side of the street. So yes, life gets hard. Relationships get difficult sometimes, but slapping your wife, throwing her to the floor is never acceptable and can land you in jail.
Me and my wife are making significant progress. I will say that, I myself don’t see myself as a woman abuser. I’ll definitely go on the record of saying if he doesn’t Put in the work to keep you and the family, he’s not working!! It starts within!!.. And I’ll also double down, “SOME women have believe
their disrespect can have no bounds but everyone else that encounters them must”. That must not be swept under the rug. How can you love someone and have no boundaries for verbally/ mentally hurting them? How can you love someone a insult their mother etc? How can you love someone and swear and brake stuff? Simple… You don’t, you love the idea of loving them. No one who loves you will do that WOMAN or MAN.. simple… This understanding didn’t come overnight, reading these responses from these women I’m speechless. A lot of these guys just don’t care about them. A lot of these guys aren’t men amongst men and probably couldn’t treat a man with that same energy but goes home and he’s Mr. Tough guy. It sickens me. I made a mistake and I am going to atone. That’s my cross to carry.
I am trying to educate other men around me on domestic violence and mental and verbal abuse. Letting them know in no situations is it okay. EVEN WHEN AT THEM. Never hit a woman nor belittle. And if she insults you, belittles you, leave her a**.. I’ve made shirts “I’ma leaver not a beater”… This is for anyone man or woman, leave!… A lot women in the comments (NOT ALL).. your a** should have been left the first time you insulted or verbally abuse that man if he never hit you. Simple. That’s what I’m preaching to certain GOOD men, leave the first time she verbally/ mentally abuse you, don’t allow someone to push to the edge,.. leave their a**!! No one should be told their stupid, good for nothing, piece of ****, body shaming, dumb etc. All these things are ABUSE, if you a man or woman doing this, you are ABUSING someone… Simple.
P.s. we whoop our kids a** over disrespect. Not in our house.
My husband hurts me too. It is hard to say 100% what I do to cause it. I guess if I don’t obey him or I try to stand up for myself or have a different opinion. When I try to bring up the problem he puts my behaviors under a microscope that is so complicated I have no idea what is going on and eventually give up in confusion. I’m scared and I don’t know what to do. I’m sorry others are dealing with this. It almost seems like this would be an old-fashioned problem but I guess it isn’t.
I feel I am a good wife and I always try to do what my husband wants. But sometimes I feel I am supposed to stand up for what is real or what makes sense but then he makes me pay for it. It is like I must completely submit no matter how irrational the terms.
Those are his rules, not GOd’s. You don’t do anything that causes it. His behavior is his behavior to own and control.
Staying in a physically abusive situation is like being an inmate on deathrow. It is only a matter of time before you end up dead.
Well my husband doesn’t hit me but he can be very forceful and rough in bed at night if he had a bad day at work or if we argued earlier. My husband has very high standards and I admit I struggle at times being “the Perfect Wife” which he expects me to be. But I have learned to see God’s will in all of this, and so think of intimacy in this way as my sacrifice to God as Jesus sacrificed himself for us. I am ministering to my husband by being available to him. And it usually works, because after he is finished he does seem to become much more easy going and all the built up tension in the air is suddenly dissipated. So I was just wondering if anybody else can see themselves in my circumstances or if I am the only one like this. Thank you Bless You!
My husband often times punches me, strangles me, and hurts me. At the end of it we always try to find solid ground and he apologizes, but he continues to do it. He says it’s because I raise my voice at him, but even when I don’t, he still hurts me. I told him that I understand we are both at fault, but he chooses to think I’m always attacking him, and he wants to always justify him hurting me. Whenever I mention he has the ability to control himself from abusing me, he says that I have the same ability to control my tongue. Which I agree and understand. However, I told him he needs to understand that what he does is illegal. However, he doesn’t care because I have chosen to not have him understand the illegal consequences. I am lost, and I don’t know what to do. I love my husband and am always wanting the best for him and hoping he will be able to stop, but he doesn’t..
Heidi, you do not deserve to be abused just because your spouse is upset with you. All couples disagree. All couples say things that upset one another. That does not justify choking, hitting, or any other abusive behaviors. Even if your husband refuses to get healthy, I hope you get healthy enough to care about yourself and what your children are observing about how a dad treats a mom, a man treats a woman. Abuse is ALWAYS wrong, never a right response to being wronged. I would encourage you to contact your local DV shelter at 1800 799 SAFE, create a safety plan so that there i NO MORE ABUSE, and consider filing for a protection from abuse order now, before another incident happens. But if another incident happens, please call 911 and create consequences. He will not stop and it will only get worse.
If a victim is strangled even one time, studies show she is 750% more likely to be killed by her abuser. (Glass, 2008) https://www.strangulationtraininginstitute.com/all-abusers-are-not-equal-new-ipv-research-reveals-an-indicator-of-deadly-abuse/
Please find a way to leave. Loving someone does not automatically mean they are good for you.
Man here, married for 8 years. Reading everyone’s comments has been difficult, but I want to make my case. First and foremost, hitting is NEVER an option—let me be clear about that. That said, I’ve had my own challenges dealing with a toxic spouse, and it’s not as simple as some people make it out to be.
My wife has no boundaries during arguments. She yells, repeats herself endlessly, imposes her point of view, and gaslights me—often to the point where I’m expected to just sit there and take it. Recently, after three straight days of fighting, I realized the back-and-forth was getting us nowhere. I calmly suggested we stop the verbal arguments and text instead. I believe there always needs to be a healthier format for resolving conflict.
Unfortunately, my wife didn’t respect that. When I tried to de-escalate, she accused me of being dismissive, turned up the yelling, and intensified the gaslighting. At that point, I told her firmly: “Please respect my boundaries. I need space.” But instead of stopping, she kept verbally attacking me, ignoring my request.
Now, I’m human, and after three days of this, I lost my patience. I didn’t strike her, nor did I put my hands on her in any way, but in that moment, I rushed toward her out of frustration to make it clear that my boundaries had been crossed. I KNOW this wasn’t the right way to handle things, but every man has a breaking point, especially after years of experiencing this behavior.
Some of you might say, “Well, you married a toxic woman; this is your fault.” And you know what? You’re right to a degree—I made that choice. But what about when you’re married and can’t just leave? What do you expect a man to do when his boundaries are repeatedly disrespected? Walk away while being verbally disrespected and gaslit? Leaving the room every single time sends the message that this behavior is acceptable.
Here’s the thing: My wife has a history of being physically abused, and I’m starting to notice patterns in her behavior during arguments. She doesn’t have any awareness of boundaries. I’m aware that rushing her wasn’t the right reaction, and I feel disgusted with myself for even getting to that point. But this reaction is rare—it has only happened once in the last five years. Still, it eats away at me.
My point is this: women (or anyone in a relationship) need to understand that men have limits, too. Boundaries exist for a reason, and crossing them repeatedly is not okay. I’ve done everything in my power to avoid escalating these situations, but what about me? Why is it acceptable to impose this kind of emotional abuse on a man without considering his breaking point?